Israel Spies on America

[ucicare]

Did any of you Non-US citizens hear about the Israeli Spies in the US? Do you ever wonder why the citizens of the US are really not concerned about it? Is it because we are brainwashed robots of our mind controlling Government? NO!

Nobody in the US cares if Israel spies for the same reason an honest husband really doesn't care if his wife snoops through his billfold. The husband might be annoyed, but it no big deal. After all, they are married, and he has nothing to hide.
Israel is not a pawn of the US any more than the US is a pawn of Israel.

The US and Israel are twin sons born of different mothers by the same Father.


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Shalom Ya'll,

Barry

[Nursey]

Dirty, dirty, dirty. *[i]Shakes head in dis-gust*

[Nursey]

A few good resources on the subject...


ISRAELI SPYING Archives (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/archives/cat_israeli_spying.html)

Israeli Actions in the Americas (http://afrocubaweb.com/news/israelispying.htm)

Israel US Spying (http://www.rense.com/Datapages/Israeldata.html)



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[DrBungle]

Yay! Mario won!

[ucicare]

In reference to Nursey's link above -

Invading Iraq to protect Israel is the best reason I can think of to go to war. I am not Jewish, but I love Israel. It is the only country on earth other than America that I would be willing to fight for or die defending.

I will live there one day. Bet on it.


Barry

[DrBungle]

Hmm. I like a good bet. How old are you and how old were your grandparents when they died?

[Nursey]

In reference to Nursey's link above -

Invading Iraq to protect Israel is the best reason I can think of to go to war. I am not Jewish, but I love Israel. It is the only country on earth other than America that I would be willing to fight for or die defending.

I will live there one day. Bet on it.


Barry
Yes!!!! I can see it now!! The Holy Land, which i see blackened with the burnt fat that results from millions of bodies that run around aflame like little dancing candles in the nuclear wind...and in the clouds above...a large football stadium type structure full of jeering crowds of predominantly white, Anglo-Saxon origin, all dressed in long, white polyester gowns and baseball caps... surrounding an almighty throne on which is seated an impossibley dazzling white light which periodically explodes into a billion different colours whenever expressing Its ~Divine Approval~...just above where Barry, his face ecstatic with a golden, post-rapturous glow, munching 'popcorn-holio' and guzzling Diet Manna from Heaven™.. can be seen leaping to his feet and belting out psalms whenever The Lamb (http://www.fugly.com/ornot/fugly/images/upload/manlamby.gif) brings another nation of unbelievers onto the pitch to be festooned with baseball sized boils and festering, weeping sores by teams of angels whilst being carpet bombed from above with frogs and locusts by the Arch Angels that fly over. For this i have seen and so it shall come to pass...

Are We Doomed? Insanity Now Mainstream (http://www.rense.com/general62/MAINS.HTM)
There Is No Tomorrow


One of the biggest changes in politics in my lifetime is that the delusional is no longer marginal. It has come in from the fringe, to sit in the seat of power in the Oval Office and in Congress. For the first time in our history, ideology and theology hold a monopoly of power in Washington.

Theology asserts propositions that cannot be proven true; ideologues hold stoutly to a worldview despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality. When ideology and theology couple, their offspring are not always bad but they are always blind. And there is the danger: voters and politicians alike, oblivious to the facts.

Remember James Watt, President Ronald Reagan's first Secretary of the Interior? My favorite online environmental journal, the ever-engaging Grist, reminded us recently of how James Watt told the U.S. Congress that protecting natural resources was unimportant in light of the imminent return of Jesus Christ. In public testimony, he said, "after the last tree is felled, Christ will come back."

Beltway elites snickered. The press corps didn't know what he was talking about. But James Watt was serious. So were his compatriots out across the country. They are the people who believe the Bible is literally true - one-third of the American electorate, if a recent Gallup poll is accurate. In this past election several million good and decent citizens went to the polls believing in the rapture index.

That's right - the rapture index. Google it and you will find that the best-selling books in America today are the 12 volumes of the "Left Behind" series written by the Christian fundamentalist and religious-right warrior Timothy LaHaye. These true believers subscribe to a fantastical theology concocted in the 19th century by a couple of immigrant preachers who took disparate passages from the Bible and wove them into a narrative that has captivated the imagination of millions of Americans.

Its outline is rather simple, if bizarre (the British writer George Monbiot recently did a brilliant dissection of it and I am indebted to him for adding to my own understanding): Once Israel has occupied the rest of its "biblical lands," legions of the antichrist will attack it, triggering a final showdown in the valley of Armageddon.

As the Jews who have not been converted are burned, the messiah will return for the rapture. True believers will be lifted out of their clothes and transported to Heaven, where, seated next to the right hand of God, they will watch their political and religious opponents suffer plagues of boils, sores, locusts and frogs during the several years of tribulation that follow.

I'm not making this up. Like Monbiot, I've read the literature. I've reported on these people, following some of them from Texas to the West Bank. They are sincere, serious and polite as they tell you they feel called to help bring the rapture on as fulfillment of biblical prophecy. That's why they have declared solidarity with Israel and the Jewish settlements and backed up their support with money and volunteers. It's why the invasion of Iraq for them was a warm-up act, predicted in the Book of Revelations where four angels "which are bound in the great river Euphrates will be released to slay the third part of man." A war with Islam in the Middle East is not something to be feared but welcomed - an essential conflagration on the road to redemption. The last time I Googled it, the rapture index stood at 144 - just one point below the critical threshold when the whole thing will blow, the son of God will return, the righteous will enter Heaven and sinners will be condemned to eternal hellfire.

So what does this mean for public policy and the environment? Go to Grist to read a remarkable work of reporting by the journalist Glenn Scherer - "The Road to Environmental Apocalypse." Read it and you will see how millions of Christian fundamentalists may believe that environmental destruction is not only to be disregarded but actually welcomed - even hastened - as a sign of the coming apocalypse.

As Grist makes clear, we're not talking about a handful of fringe lawmakers who hold or are beholden to these beliefs. Nearly half the U.S. Congress before the recent election - 231 legislators in total and more since the election - are backed by the religious right.

Forty-five senators and 186 members of the 108th Congress earned 80 to 100 percent approval ratings from the three most influential Christian right advocacy groups. They include Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, Assistant Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, Conference Chair Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, Policy Chair Jon Kyl of Arizona, House Speaker Dennis Hastert and Majority Whip Roy Blunt. The only Democrat to score 100 percent with the Christian coalition was Sen. Zell Miller of Georgia, who recently quoted from the biblical book of Amos on the Senate floor: "The days will come, sayeth the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land." He seemed to be relishing the thought.

And why not? There's a constituency for it. A 2002 Time-CNN poll found that 59 percent of Americans believe that the prophecies found in the book of Revelations are going to come true. Nearly one-quarter think the Bible predicted the 9/11 attacks. Drive across the country with your radio tuned to the more than 1,600 Christian radio stations, or in the motel turn on some of the 250 Christian TV stations, and you can hear some of this end-time gospel. And you will come to understand why people under the spell of such potent prophecies cannot be expected, as Grist puts it, "to worry about the environment. Why care about the earth, when the droughts, floods, famine and pestilence brought by ecological collapse are signs of the apocalypse foretold in the Bible? Why care about global climate change when you and yours will be rescued in the rapture? And why care about converting from oil to solar when the same God who performed the miracle of the loaves and fishes can whip up a few billion barrels of light crude with a word?"

Because these people believe that until Christ does return, the Lord will provide. One of their texts is a high school history book, "America's Providential History." You'll find there these words: "The secular or socialist has a limited-resource mentality and views the world as a pie ... that needs to be cut up so everyone can get a piece." However, "[t]he Christian knows that the potential in God is unlimited and that there is no shortage of resources in God's earth ... while many secularists view the world as overpopulated, Christians know that God has made the earth sufficiently large with plenty of resources to accommodate all of the people."

No wonder Karl Rove goes around the White House whistling that militant hymn, "Onward Christian Soldiers." He turned out millions of the foot soldiers on Nov. 2, including many who have made the apocalypse a powerful driving force in modern American politics.

It is hard for the journalist to report a story like this with any credibility. So let me put it on a personal level. I myself don't know how to be in this world without expecting a confident future and getting up every morning to do what I can to bring it about. So I have always been an optimist. Now, however, I think of my friend on Wall Street whom I once asked: "What do you think of the market? "I'm optimistic," he answered. "Then why do you look so worried?" And he answered: "Because I am not sure my optimism is justified."

I'm not, either. Once upon a time I agreed with Eric Chivian and the Center for Health and the Global Environment that people will protect the natural environment when they realize its importance to their health and to the health and lives of their children. Now I am not so sure. It's not that I don't want to believe that - it's just that I read the news and connect the dots.

I read that the administrator of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has declared the election a mandate for President Bush on the environment. This for an administration:

a.. That wants to rewrite the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act and the Endangered Species Act protecting rare plant and animal species and their habitats, as well as the National Environmental Policy Act, which requires the government to judge beforehand whether actions might damage natural resources. b.. That wants to relax pollution limits for ozone; eliminate vehicle tailpipe inspections, and ease pollution standards for cars, sport-utility vehicles and diesel-powered big trucks and heavy equipment. c.. That wants a new international audit law to allow corporations to keep certain information about environmental problems secret from the public. d.. That wants to drop all its new-source review suits against polluting, coal-fired power plants and weaken consent decrees reached earlier with coal companies. e.. That wants to open the Arctic [National] Wildlife Refuge to drilling and increase drilling in Padre Island National Seashore, the longest stretch of undeveloped barrier island in the world and the last great coastal wild land in America.

I read the news just this week and learned how the Environmental Protection Agency had planned to spend $9 million - $2 million of it from the administration's friends at the American Chemistry Council - to pay poor families to continue to use pesticides in their homes. These pesticides have been linked to neurological damage in children, but instead of ordering an end to their use, the government and the industry were going to offer the families $970 each, as well as a camcorder and children's clothing, to serve as guinea pigs for the study.

I read all this in the news.

I read the news just last night and learned that the administration's friends at the International Policy Network, which is supported by Exxon Mobil and others of like mind, have issued a new report that climate change is "a myth, sea levels are not rising" [and] scientists who believe catastrophe is possible are "an embarrassment."

I not only read the news but the fine print of the recent appropriations bill passed by Congress, with the obscure (and obscene) riders attached to it: a clause removing all endangered species protections from pesticides; language prohibiting judicial review for a forest in Oregon; a waiver of environmental review for grazing permits on public lands; a rider pressed by developers to weaken protection for crucial habitats in California.

I read all this and look up at the pictures on my desk, next to the computer - pictures of my grandchildren. I see the future looking back at me from those photographs and I say, "Father, forgive us, for we know not what we do." And then I am stopped short by the thought: "That's not right. We do know what we are doing. We are stealing their future. Betraying their trust. Despoiling their world."

And I ask myself: Why? Is it because we don't care? Because we are greedy? Because we have lost our capacity for outrage, our ability to sustain indignation at injustice?

What has happened to our moral imagination?

On the heath Lear asks Gloucester: "How do you see the world?" And Gloucester, who is blind, answers: "I see it feelingly.'"

I see it feelingly. The news is not good these days. I can tell you, though, that as a journalist I know the news is never the end of the story. The news can be the truth that sets us free - not only to feel but to fight for the future we want. And the will to fight is the antidote to despair, the cure for cynicism, and the answer to those faces looking back at me from those photographs on my desk. What we need is what the ancient Israelites called hochma - the science of the heart ... the capacity to see, to feel and then to act as if the future depended on you.

Believe me, it does.

[Checkmate]

Barry, have you ever traveled outside of the United States of America?

[ucicare]

Barry, have you ever traveled outside of the United States of America?


Well golly darn heck no Check, why shucks, we don't even have no runnin' water nor inside plummin' yet neither.....

What do you think I am Check? Some illiterate, backwards, uneducated boob? I am well informed and very well traveled. There are many places I have not been, but that does not mean I do not know anything about those places. I have never been to the moon either, but I bet you I can fill you in on a lot about it with great accuracy.

Barry

[ucicare]

Are We Doomed? Insanity Now Mainstream (http://www.rense.com/general62/MAINS.HTM)
There Is No Tomorrow


One of the biggest changes in politics in my lifetime is that the delusional is no longer marginal......


Death Rays, Earthquake Control, Weather Weapons, UFOs, New Age Religion, Conspiracies at every turn...need I go on?

(Laughs out loud at the irony and hypocrisy)

Barry

[Nursey]

Defence secretary William Cohen: "Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves."


Don't believe in rays that can kill? Switch on a microwave but leave the door open. Bask in the invisible waves and let me know the result.

UFOs as in extra terrestrials? Not personally, though who am i to completely rule the possibility out? UFOs as in unidentified flying objects of the super-power generated variety? Well now, that's when i start to believe in the likely existence of 'UFOs'.

And what 'New Age Religion'? I didn't realise that my personal understanding of life had been registered as an official mode of worship..

So anyway, about those polyester gowns......

[ucicare]

And what 'New Age Religion'? I didn't realise that my personal understanding of life had been registered as an official mode of worship..

"Not realizing" is a dangerous thing. Your "personal understanding of life" is the fastest growing religious movement around. But you really do know that, because it is a conspiracy...and I quote a leading New Age guru,
"The Movement has no official leader, headquarters, nor membership list, but instead is a network of groups working toward specific goals."

Gasps So, Nursey, it is really you who are involved in a conspiracy to take over the world. I should have seen it sooner...how could I be so blind...?????


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http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Cults/newage.htm


Barry

[Dubya 2.0]

Barry, have you ever traveled outside of the United States of America?


Well golly darn heck no Check, why shucks, we don't even have no runnin' water nor inside plummin' yet neither.....

What do you think I So that's a resouning NO then....am Check? Some illiterate, backwards, uneducated boob? I am well informed and very well traveled. There are many places I have not been, but that does not mean I do not know anything about those places. I have never been to the moon either, but I bet you I can fill you in on a lot about it with great accuracy.

Barry

So that's a resounding NO then...

[ucicare]

Barry, have you ever traveled outside of the United States of America?


Well golly darn heck no Check, why shucks, we don't even have no runnin' water nor inside plummin' yet neither.....

What do you think I So that's a resouning NO then....am Check? Some illiterate, backwards, uneducated boob? I am well informed and very well traveled. There are many places I have not been, but that does not mean I do not know anything about those places. I have never been to the moon either, but I bet you I can fill you in on a lot about it with great accuracy.

Barry

So that's a resounding NO then...

You miss the sarcasm. I have traveled outside the US on numerous occasions. But what if I had never left my home State? Does that make me stupid or informed? Does traveling the world suddenly make you enlightened? The inference that Checkmate would like to make is that someone who has not visited other countries could not possibly know anything about the world. Or reversely, his wandering the globe somehow qualifies him to be a world expert. Neither is remotely true.

Barry

[Nursey]

"Not realizing" is a dangerous thing. Your "personal understanding of life" is the fastest growing religious movement around. But you really do know that, because it is a conspiracy...and I quote a leading New Age guru,
"The Movement has no official leader, headquarters, nor membership list, but instead is a network of groups working toward specific goals."

Gasps So, Nursey, it is really you who are involved in a conspiracy to take over the world. I should have seen it sooner...how could I be so blind...?????


Not last time i checked, but you can think that if you like. The fact is, i think for myself, and my observations more often than not meet with positive feedback resulting from other people's ability to see and understand for themselves what i perceive, which is why i'm willing to share it. If what works for me is beneficial for anyone else, great. If not, then leave it, i certainly don't want to hinder anyone. I don't expect anyone to take my word for anything, they should only incorporate my views into their own understanding if it is in line with what they already know, in other words, is clearly apparent to their own eyes, just as any wisdom or knowledge i have employed to help explain my experiences is (eg. 'yin and yang' or laws of physics). I don't force my beliefs onto anyone else and have great respect for quite a few major religious traditions, which i would hate to see diminished in any way.

As for conspiracies, whether people choose to follow the official story about 9-11 and world power or the alternative view, they are still believing in a conspiracy...one that states that a bunch of womanising, hard-partying 'Jihadists'(??) armed with nothing but boxcutters managed to hijack four planes on the same day without even one of them being intercepted by the world's most powerful military with one of the largest intelligence organisations at its disposal, and fly them with pin-point accuracy with what one professional pilot described as 'crack fighter pilot skills' into the WTC and the Pentagon...after having only trained in flight simulators and tiny cessna light aircraft...and that this operation was masterminded by an ill (dialysis dependant) 'evil one' (who used to do buisiness with the Bush family, as did his family) from a cave in Afghanistan...in order to 'punish America' for aiding Israel (which resulted in...ahem...an enormous increase in aid to Israel...)

Or, that the Israeli MOSSAD, who have a history (http://www.arabnews.com/?page=7&section=0&article=28888&d=16&m=7&y=2003&pix=opinion.jpg&category=Opinion) of perpetrating 'false flag' (http://www.rense.com/general17/moss.htm) operations, with the aid of the elements of the C.I.A. and the corrupt neocon (American-Israeli dual loyalist) government currently installed in the Whitehouse perpetrated the crime in order to facillitate the agenda we are currently witnessing, which interestingly enough is in complete accord with the ideology of Leo Strauss (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5010.htm), a prominent neocon mentor.
"Ever since the Bush regime came to power there has been a fierce political and organizational war between the Pentagon Zionists and their militarist collaborators, on the one hand, and the professional military and intelligence apparatus, on the other."
Treason in high places: Pentagon zionists, AIPAC and Israel (http://www.rebelion.org/noticia.php?id=4298)
Both are conspiracies, by my dictionary's definition. What makes the latter example any crazier than the first? At least the latter 'alternative' view does not require one to abandon fundamental laws of physics in order to validate it as in the case of the official version of events regarding the collapse of the towers (the steel girders could not possibley have 'bent' from the temperature of the jet fuel and burning debris alone. Not even slightly).

So now we've got all that out of the way, and i'm sorry to have to keep bringing the subject up again, but really Barry...

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...we're all dying to see you in it! How much longer now til the big day!?!!

[ucicare]

I wished that I had some clue what the dress has to do with anything. Isn't that the ceremonial dress of the Latter Day Saints (Mormons)?

You should fit in well with them. They share your belief that humans are God.

Barry

[Nursey]

I wouldn't know, and anyway, that's not exactly what i said. Still avoiding the subject though i see. What's the matter? Surely you aren't ashamed of your beliefs? Now's your chance to shout it from the highest hill! The Lord is watching Barry...counting on you - His humble servant - to proudly stand and honour His Name!

[ucicare]

I wouldn't know, and anyway, that's not exactly what i said. Still avoiding the subject though i see. What's the matter? Surely you aren't ashamed of your beliefs? Now's your chance to shout it from the highest hill! The Lord is watching Barry...counting on you - His humble servant - to proudly stand and honour His Name!

Talk about avoiding the subject...

I was serious about living in Israel. I do not know where you get your insane ramblings.

You are beginning to truly bore me.

Barry

[Nursey]

Talk about avoiding the subject...

I was serious about living in Israel. I do not know where you get your insane ramblings.
Well pardon me for having drawn the conclusion that you are one of the types of christian mentioned in the article, ( i.e. who take the bible literally ) after having read posts like this:

In light if this, when Jesus listed the "signs of the end", is it just further proof of his lack of credibility?

Jesus answered: You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains.

(etc....)


But the Bible is just literature, right?

Barry

The Bible states it like this - (etc...)

I'm simply not worried. I know how the story ends.


Barry

You are beginning to truly bore me.

Barry
That's it Barry...when you start to feel the heat... :idea: cool and aloof, you don't want anyone spotting your vulnerabilities! :oops:

[Nursey]

U.S. Army Officers Say: 'Mossad May Blame Arabs' (http://www.americanfreepress.net/09_26_01/U_S__Army_Officers_Say___Mossa/u_s__army_officers_say___mossa.html)

Sometimes "the most likely suspect" in an act of terrorism is actually a "false flag" working for-or otherwise "framed" by- those who are responsible.

Exclusive To American Free Press

By Michael Collins Piper

Top U.S. Army analysts believe Israel's intelligence agency, the Mossad, is "ruthless and cunning," "a wildcard" that "has [the] capability to target U.S. forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act."

This eye-opening assertion about America's supposed closest ally was reported in a front page story in The Washington Times on September 10-just one day before the terrorist attacks in America that are being blamed on "Arabs."

The Times reported that this serious charge by U.S. Army officers against the Israelis appeared in a 68-page paper prepared by 60 officers at the U.S. Army's School for Advanced Military Studies, a training ground for up-and-coming Army officers.

Then, just hours after the terrorist tra gedies, a well-known pro-Israel analyst, George Friedman, proclaimed Israel as the primary beneficiary.

"The big winner today, intended or not, is the state of Israel," wrote Fried man, who said on his Internet website at stratfor.com that "There is no question … that the Israeli leadership is feeling relief" in the wake of the terrorist attack on America as a result of the benefits that Israel will glean.

Considering the U.S. Army's questions about possible provocations by Israel, coupled with this noted intelligence analyst's suggestion that Israel was indeed "the big winner" on Sept. 11, a previous report in the Aug. 3, 1993 issue of The Village Voice that Israel's Mossad was perhaps involved in (or had foreknowledge of) the previous "Arab terrorist" attack on the World Trade Center, takes on new dimensions.

The events of Sept. 11 do require careful attention in light of the fact that Israel has had a long and proven record in planting "false flags"-orchestrated assassinations and acts of terrorism for its own purposes and pinning those atrocities on innocent parties.

Perhaps the best-known instance in which Israel used a "false flag" to cover its own trail was in the infamous Lavon Affair. It was in 1954 that several Israeli-orchestrated acts of terrorism against British targets in Egypt were carried out. Blame for the attacks was placed on the Muslim Brotherhood, which opposed the regime of Egyptian President Gamul Abdul-Nasser. However, the truth about the wave of terror is found in a once-secret cable from Col. Benjamin Givli, the head of Israel's military intelligence, who outlined the intended purpose behind the wave of terror:

[Our goal] is to break the West's confidence in the existing [Egyptian] regime. The actions should cause arrests, demonstrations, and expressions of revenge. The Israeli origin should be totally covered while attention should be shifted to any other possible factor. The purpose is to prevent economic and military aid from the West to Egypt.

Ultimately the truth about Israel's involvement became public and Israel was rocked internally in the wake of the scandal. Competing political elements within Israel used the scandal as a bludgeon against their opponents. But the truth about Israel's use of a "false flag" had come to international attention and demonstrated how Israel was willing to endanger innocent lives as part of its grand political strategy to expand its influence in the Middle East.

BLAMING 'RIGHT WING' EXTREMISTS

A shadowy "right wing" group known as "Direct Action" was accused of the attack on Goldenberg's Deli in Paris on Aug. 9, 1982. Six people died and 22 were injured. The leader of "Direct Action" was Jean-Marc Rouillan who had been operating in the Mediterranean under the cover name of "Sebas" and had been repeatedly linked to the Mossad. All references to Rouillan's Mossad links were deleted from the official reports issued at the time.

However, the Algerian national news service, which has ties to French intelligence, blamed the Mossad for Rouillan's activities. Angry French intelligence officers were believed to have leaked this information. Several top French security officials quit in protest over the cover-up of Mossad complicity in Rouillan's crimes. However, other Mossad false flag operations also took place on French soil.

FALSE CLUES

On Oct. 3, 1980, a synagogue on Co pernicus Street was bombed in Paris. Four bystanders were killed. Nine were injured. The media frenzy which followed the incident was worldwide. Reports held that "right wing extremists" were responsible. Yet, of all the "right wing extremists" held for questioning, none was arrested. In fact, all were released. In the upper echelons of French intelligence, however, the finger of suspicion was pointed at the Mossad.

According to one report: "On April 6, 1979, the same Mossad terror unit now suspected of the Copernicus carnage blew up the heavily guarded plant of CNIM industries at La Seyne-sur-Mer, near Toulon, in southeast France, where a consortium of French firms was building a nuclear reactor for Iraq.

"The Mossad salted the site of the CNIM bomb blast with 'clues' followed up with anonymous phone calls to police-suggesting that the sabotage was the work of a 'conservative' environmentalist group-'the most pacific and harmless people on earth' as one source put it."

MORE OF THE SAME

o On June 28, 1978, Israeli agents exploded a bomb under a small passenger car in the Rue Saint Anne in Paris, killing Mohammed Boudia, an organizer for the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO). Immediately afterward, Paris police received anonymous phone calls accusing Boudia of involvement in narcotics deals and attributing his murder to the Corsican Mafia. A thorough investigation subsequently established that Mossad special-action agents were responsible for the terrorist killing.

o In October 1976 the same Mossad unit kidnapped two West German students named Brigette Schulz and Thomas Reuter from their Paris hotel. Planted "clues" and anonymous phone calls made it appear that a Bavarian "neo-nazi" formation had executed the abduction. French intelligence established that the two German youths had been secretly flown to Israel, drugged, tortured, coerced into a false "confession of complicity" in PLO activities, and then anonymously incarcerated in one of the Israeli government's notorious political prisons.

o In February 1977 a German-born, naturalized U.S. citizen named William Jahnke arrived in Paris for some secretive business meetings. He soon vanished, leaving no trace. Paris police were anonymously informed that Jahnke had been involved in a high-level South Korean bribery affair and "eliminated" when the deal went sour. A special team of investigators from SDECE, the leading French intelligence agency, eventually determined that Jahnke had been "terminated" by the Mossad, which suspected him of selling secret information to the Libyans. Along with other details of this sordid case, the SDECE learned that Jahnke had been "fingered" to the Mossad by his own former employer, the CIA.

BLAMING THE LIBYANS

One of Israel's most outrageous "false flag" operations involved a wild propaganda story aimed at discrediting Libyan leader Muamar Qaddafi. In the early months of the administration of President Ronald Reagan, the U.S. media began promoting a story that a "Libyan hit squad" was in the United States to assassinate the president. This inflamed public sentiment against Libya.

Suddenly, however, the "hit squad" stories vanished. Ultimately it was discovered that the source of the story was Manucher Ghorbanifar, a former Iranian SAVAK (secret police) agent with close ties to the Mossad. Even the liberal Washington Post acknowledged that the CIA itself believed that Ghorbanifar was a liar who "had made up the hit-squad story in order to cause problems for one of Is rael's enemies."

The Los Angeles Times had already blown the whistle on Israel's scare stories. "Israeli intelligence, not the Reagan administration," reported the Times, "was a major source of some of the most dramatic published reports about a Libyan assassination team allegedly sent to kill President Reagan and other top U.S. officials . . . Israel, which informed sources said has 'wanted an excuse to go in and bash Libya for a longtime,' may be trying to build American public support for a strike against [Qaddafi]."

In other words, Israel had been promoting the former SAVAK agent, Ghorbanifar, to official Washing ton as a reliable source. In fact, he was a Mossad disinformation operative waving a "false flag"-yet another Israeli scheme to blame Libya for its own misdeeds, using one "false flag" (Iran's SAVAK) to lay blame on another "false flag" (Libya).

The Mossad was almost certainly responsible for the bombing of the La Belle discotheque in West Berlin on April 5, 1986. However, claims were made that there was "irrefutable" evidence that the Libyans were responsible. A U.S. serviceman was killed. President Ronald Reagan responded with an attack on Libya.

However, intelligence insiders believed that Israel's Mossad had concocted the phony "evidence" to "prove" Libyan responsibility. West Berlin police director Manfred Ganschow, who took charge of the investigation, cleared the Libyans, saying, "This is a highly political case. Some of the evidence cited in Washington may not be evidence at all, merely assumptions supplied for political reasons."

BLAMING THE SYRIANS

On April 18, 1986, Nezar Hindawi, a 32-year-old Jordanian man was arrested in London after security guards found that one of the passengers boarding an Israeli plane bound for Jerusalem, Ann Murphy, 22, was carrying a square, flat sheet of plastic explosive in the double bottom of her carry-on bag.

Miss Murphy told security men that the detonator (disguised as a calculator) had been given to her by her fiancee, Hindawi. He was charged with attempted sabotage and attempted murder.

Word was leaked that Hindawi had confessed and claimed that he had been hired by Gen. Mohammed Al-Khouli, the intelligence director of the Syrian air force. Also implicated were others including the Syrian ambassador in London. The French authorities warned the British prime minister that there was more to the case than met the eye-that is, Israeli involvement. This was later confirmed in reports in the Western press.

BLAMING THE PLO

In 1970, King Hussein of Jordan was provided incriminating intelligence that suggested the Palestine Liberation Organization was plotting to murder him and seize power. Infuriated, Hussein mobilized his forces for what has become known as the "Black September" purge of the PLO. Thousands of Palestinians living in Jordan were rounded up, some of the leaders were tortured, and in the end, masses of refugees were driven from Jordan to Lebanon.

New data, coming to light after the murder of two leading Mossad operatives in Larnaka, Cyprus, suggested that the entire operation had been a Mossad covert action, led by one of its key operatives, Sylvia Roxburgh. She contrived an affair with King Hussein and served as the linchpin for a major Mossad coup designed to destabilize the Arabs.

In 1982, just when the PLO had abandoned the use of terrorism, the Mossad spread disinformation about "terror attacks" on Israeli settlements along the northern border in order to justify a full-scale military invasion of Lebanon. Years later, even leading Israeli spokesmen, such as former Foreign Minister Abba Eban, admitted that the reports of "PLO terrorism" had been contrived by the Mossad.

It is also worth noting that the attempted assassination in London of Israeli ambassador Shlomo Argov was initially blamed on the PLO. The attempted assassination was cited by Israel as one excuse for its 1982 incursion into Lebanon. In fact, the diplomat was one of Israel's "doves" and inclined toward a friendly disposition of Israel's conflict with the PLO and an unlikely target of PLO wrath.

It appears that the assassination attempt was carried out by the Mossad-under yet another "false flag"-for two purposes: (a) elimination of a domestic "peacenik" friendly toward the Palestinians; and (b) pinning yet another crime on the PLO.

[Nursey]

Here's a little food for thought...


The Coming Israeli Attack on Iran, and its Consequences: Pearl Harbor Redux (http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a1349.htm)

Or, How George Bush will Institute the Military Draft, in spite of his campaign promises, and have the support of the American people for it: By provoking Iran to attack the USA first. And how this might destroy the world.

by Harry Brunser





"The powerful Neocons in the United States are NOT dumb. I can testify for the American public that they are ... superbly devious, and totally without ethics or morals. They have one supreme goal, the expansion of Israel, and this end justifies any and all means, including mass murder. Because of this blinding obsession, one thing besides a conscience is sorely lacking in their mental makeup: imagination.

What in fact will happen is this: Israel will attack the Iranian nuclear sites, with the USA permitting overflight of Iraq for that purpose. Iran will retaliate – but not against Israel – it will attack the ships and armed forces of the United States in the region.

Just like Japan did at Pearl Harbor."

"Oil will cease to flow from Saudi Arabia, Bahrein, Kuwait, Iraq, the UAE, and Iran itself, almost half of the world’s supply. Oil will rise to $100 a barrel within three days, to $200 a barrel within a week, to $300 a barrel within two weeks. Oil at the pump will be $15 a gallon in the US, $30 a gallon in Europe. The economies of the world will begin to collapse under this burden.....
.....in the midst of the deaths in Iraq of thousands of our sons and daughters, and a severe gasoline shortage, all commerce and industry in the United States, all water and sewage pumping, all electric trains, all food shipment from California to points east, all food refrigeration, all heating, lighting or air conditioning, all offices and computers, all banking, all ATM machines, all check clearing, (both domestic and international,) all bank vaults on time clocks, all home appliances, all Internet access, all home television reception, all newspaper presses, all air traffic controls, airport luggage facilities and air travel, would grind to a halt for 2-6 weeks ... The basics - food and water, cash money, flashlight batteries and candles - would begin to run out. Imagine the habitability of American cities after two weeks without water, food, money, light or sewage services. Riots, murders and vigilantism would run rampant. The cost to the US economy would easily be $2-5 trillion.

.... a run will start on the dollar, and the exchange value of the dollar will collapse. Americans will no longer be able to afford the goods produced in foreign countries, and will have to do without the abundance we have become used to. We have no substitutes, since corporate greed has ensured that today in the USA, we manufacture almost nothing ourselves. Factories from Beijing to Brussels, from Helsinki to Honshu, will close, and several hundreds of millions of people will be out of work. The world economy will plunge into a crippling depression. Nations will be unable to afford drugs, fuel and food, to keep their vast cities of 20-30 million souls, such as Calcutta, Cairo and Lagos, functioning. Millions will begin to die of disease, famine, and urban unrest. Local insurrections and wars will begin to break out as people struggle to survive."

[ucicare]

I am officially on vaction this week (holiday to you in the UK). I refuse to get in a twit about anything.

(offers Nursey an olive branch of peace for the rest of the week)

In reference to the two posts above.

1. I think the first one may have some truth to it. It would not surprise me if Israel used a "false flag" to carry out it's agenda. The US would probably do the same thing if it felt the means justified the end. I am not saying that it is right to do that, I am just acknowledging that this is may be based in reality, unlike some (not all) of the other things Nursey has posted recently. The fact that the article is "exclusive" to the American Free Press does not help it's credibility.

2. As far as the second post - I think it is speculative and reeks of the "chicken little syndrome". America has always shown an ability to adjust, and I expect it would do so again, rather than collapse into anarchy, if the events occur as predicted.

As far as the Neocons go, maybe there is truth to that part. The article states that the Neocons primary goal is the expansion of Israel at any cost. It also states that the Neocons are smart.

Loves Israel, really smart....Heck, maybe I am a Neocon after all.


Barry

[Nursey]

....Heck, maybe I am a Neocon after all.

The same thought crossed my mind after reading this comment of yours...

The more I read and hear about everything, the more I think that US World Domination is a good idea. Natures way is survival of the fittest, right? Why go against the laws of nature?

Have you read anything about Leo Strauss yet?
Noble lies and perpetual war: Leo Strauss, the neo-cons, and Iraq ([url=http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5010.htm)
Are the ideas of the conservative political philosopher Leo Strauss a shaping influence on the Bush administration’s world outlook? Danny Postel interviews Shadia Drury – a leading scholarly critic of Strauss – and asks her about the connection between Plato’s dialogues, secrets and lies, and the United States-led war in Iraq.
By Danny Postel
10/18/03: (openDemocracy) What was initially an anti-war argument is now a matter of public record. It is widely recognised that the Bush administration was not honest about the reasons it gave for invading Iraq.
Paul Wolfowitz, the influential United States deputy secretary of defense, has acknowledged that the evidence used to justify the war was “murky” and now says that weapons of mass destruction weren’t the crucial issue anyway (see the book by Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber, Weapons of Mass Deception: the uses of propaganda in Bush’s war on Iraq (2003 (http://www.prwatch.org/books/wmd.html).)
By contrast, Shadia Drury (http://www.uregina.ca/arts/CRC/) , professor of political theory at the University of Regina in Saskatchewan, argues that the use of deception and manipulation in current US policy flow directly from the doctrines of the political philosopher Leo Strauss (1899-1973). His disciples include Paul Wolfowitz (http://www.defenselink.mil/bios/depsecdef_bio.html) and other neo-conservatives who have driven much of the political agenda of the Bush administration.

A natural order of inequality

Danny Postel: You’ve argued that there is an important connection between the teachings of Leo Strauss and the Bush administration’s selling of the Iraq war. What is that connection?

Shadia Drury: Leo Strauss was a great believer in the efficacy and usefulness of lies in politics. Public support for the Iraq war rested on lies about Iraq posing an imminent threat to the United States – the business about weapons of mass destruction and a fictitious alliance between al-Qaida and the Iraqi regime. Now that the lies have been exposed, Paul Wolfowitz and others in the war party are denying that these were the real reasons for the war.
So what were the real reasons? Reorganising the balance of power in the Middle East in favour of Israel? Expanding American hegemony in the Arab world? Possibly. But these reasons would not have been sufficient in themselves to mobilise American support for the war. And the Straussian cabal in the administration realised that.

A second fundamental belief of Strauss’s ancients has to do with their insistence on the need for secrecy and the necessity of lies. In his book Persecution and the Art of Writing, Strauss outlines why secrecy is necessary. He argues that the wise must conceal their views for two reasons – to spare the people’s feelings and to protect the elite from possible reprisals.
The people will not be happy to learn that there is only one natural right – the right of the superior to rule over the inferior, the master over the slave, the husband over the wife, and the wise few over the vulgar many. In On Tyranny, Strauss refers to this natural right as the “tyrannical teaching” of his beloved ancients. It is tyrannical in the classic sense of rule above rule or in the absence of law (p. 70).
Now, the ancients were determined to keep this tyrannical teaching secret because the people are not likely to tolerate the fact that they are intended for subordination; indeed, they may very well turn their resentment against the superior few. Lies are thus necessary to protect the superior few from the persecution of the vulgar many.

I never imagined when I wrote my first book on Strauss that the unscrupulous elite that he elevates would ever come so close to political power, nor that the ominous tyranny of the wise would ever come so close to being realised in the political life of a great nation like the United States. But fear is the greatest ally of tyranny.

[MEDICVET]

Are We Doomed? Insanity Now Mainstream (http://www.rense.com/general62/MAINS.HTM)
There Is No Tomorrow


One of the biggest changes in politics in my lifetime is that the delusional is no longer marginal......


Death Rays, Earthquake Control, Weather Weapons, UFOs, New Age Religion, Conspiracies at every turn...need I go on?

(Laughs out loud at the irony and hypocrisy)

Barry

I believe in UFO's too and what's wrong with 'new age religion'? ;)

[ucicare]

I believe in UFO's too and what's wrong with 'new age religion'? ;)


First, let me humbly apologize you or anyone else is offended by my reference to the New Age Movement. I am critical of it from my own experiences, but I do not want to belittle anyone elses beliefs.

A part of my youthful ventures into occultism were via the New Age Movement. I later found it to be a huge deception at best, and a dangerous thing at worst. I just hate to see nice people being deceived by it's trappings.

If you want to know specifically what I find deceptive, I will be glad to expound. I do not want to argue religion, however. Anything I post will clearly be my OPINION, not something that I state as dogmatic fact.

Barry

[ucicare]

I believe in UFO's too and what's wrong with 'new age religion'? ;)


First, let me humbly apologize you or anyone else is offended by my reference to the New Age Movement. I am critical of it from my own experiences, but I do not want to belittle anyone elses beliefs.

A part of my youthful ventures into occultism were via the New Age Movement. I later found it to be a huge deception at best, and a dangerous thing at worst. I just hate to see nice people being deceived by it's trappings.

If you want to know specifically what I find deceptive, I will be glad to expound. I do not want to argue religion, however. Anything I post will clearly be my OPINION, not something that I state as dogmatic fact.

Barry

[Schmed]

I do not want to argue religion
Barry


Aww C'mon Barry, we do that so well too.... :wink:




I think what gets some of these red necked *ahem* blooded I mean blooded Mericans is this Nursey, they don't understand that you are bashing our shit ridden evil government and not (most the time) the blue-collared citizens of this fine nation. Perhaps I am wrong, but tis what I think. PS Check your PMs you twat!!!

[Nursey]

Israel 'sorry' over weapons sales (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4108446.stm)

Israel has publicly apologised to the US over a deal to sell military technology to China.

Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom said he was sorry if Israel had acted in a way which was not acceptable to the Americans.

But, speaking ahead of talks with US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, he said Israel had acted in good faith.

The sales have angered Washington which fears its own technology may could be used against Taiwan.

"If things were done that were not acceptable to the Americans then we are sorry but these things were done with the utmost innocence," said Mr Shalom on Israel Radio.

Israel has supplied China with Harpy Killer unmanned attack drones, designed to target radar systems.

Tsk. :oops:

[Robman97]

Damn them, always trying to make a buck aren't they.

[Nursey]

Now, it's understandable for us (myself included) to instantly react negatively to such a story, but i think we should get this in perspective before we all start mouthing off. Let's imagine how a certain 'voice of reason' would view such an act, if he were still alive...

Nobody in the US cares if Israel sells arms to their enemy for the same reason an overweight, heart-attack prone husband really doesn't care if his wife sells an electronic device to jam his pacemaker to the guy across the road who wants him dead . The husband might be annoyed, but it no big deal. After all, they are married, he supports her decision to earn a little pocket-money to splash out on some new clothes.


See? It doesn't seem nearly so reprehensible, when you look at it like that, i does it? :|

[Robman97]

Think you can make the whole Iran-Cntra thing make sense like that? That would put my mind at ease.