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phatboy
06-05-2008, 11:05 AM
So now its narrowed down to just 2.
What are you opinions on this years candidates, thinking Dems have a better plan or do the Reps have all the pull?
Nauseous
06-05-2008, 12:32 PM
I don't trust any of them.
phatboy
06-05-2008, 01:40 PM
Ditto on that. It would be nice to get someone in there you could trust. I saw where Obamas campaign manager was indicted on extortion and money laundering charges.
Sweet.
Nauseous
06-05-2008, 02:00 PM
I trust Ralph Nader more than any of them.
phatboy
06-05-2008, 02:40 PM
I dont like a lot of the ideas behind obama, plus the fact that he doesnt say the pledge of allegiance, kind of bothers me. I dont doubt he'll win, but thats mainly because McCain is following the lowest approval ranked president in history and being from the same party doesnt help.
Joeslogic
06-05-2008, 07:46 PM
While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75 year old Texas rancher,whose hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man.
Eventually the topic got around to Obama and his bid to be our President.
The old rancher said, 'Well, ya know, Obama is a 'post turtle'.'
Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a 'post turtle' was.
The old rancher said, 'When you're driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that's a 'post turtle'.'
The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor's face, so he continued to explain. 'You know he didn't get up there by himself, he doesn't belong up there, he doesn't know what to do while he is up there, and you just wonder what kind of a dumb butt put him up there.'
phatboy
06-05-2008, 09:49 PM
:)
I like that.
Of course I am curious to see who they are going to announce as his running mate.
Joeslogic
06-05-2008, 10:18 PM
Romney or Thompson , Please not Huckabee I'm thinking his is another Jimme Cata in sheeps clothing.
As for Obama's it can't get worse can it?
phatboy
06-05-2008, 10:42 PM
I wouldnt mind seeing Rice, that would really throw a monkey wrench into the race card that everyone is wanting to pull on this.
One good thing is that felons cant vote, so that will keep the numbers lower.
Joeslogic
06-05-2008, 11:23 PM
Sheeeeet Obama will pull 200 percent of the black vote and 150 percent of the liberal vote.
phatboy
06-06-2008, 07:38 AM
man, your math skillz is off da chain.
Joeslogic
06-06-2008, 08:12 AM
What? Look I'll explain. Remember it's the liberals who fight against having to use picture id's to vote.
It's the blacks that say they are disenfranchised by whitey if they have to prove who they are at the voting polls.
You figure it out.
And go get some coffee.
Fernando
06-06-2008, 02:15 PM
I like Obama, McCain just seems too....comfortable. Obama is a really fantastic public speaker and with his ideas and values, he just seems right for me.
Either way it's choosing the lesser evil guys.
phatboy
06-06-2008, 03:00 PM
I like Obama, McCain just seems too....comfortable. Obama is a really fantastic public speaker and with his ideas and values, he just seems right for me.
Either way it's choosing the lesser evil guys.
Hitler was an excellent public speaker too.
Nauseous
06-06-2008, 04:30 PM
Zing?
Joeslogic
06-06-2008, 04:43 PM
I like Obama, McCain just seems too....comfortable. Obama is a really fantastic public speaker and with his ideas and values, he just seems right for me.
Either way it's choosing the lesser evil guys.
Fernando has Obama very eloquently and in clear, logical, and comprehensible terms described as strategy for any change from the norm what so ever?
Or has he eloquently packaged and idea of more compounded to the factor of ten of the same ole same old routine in Washington?
And did he do so in all 57 states or does he a quit before the job is done?
I think that you read that somewhere and thought it was a very witty anecdote but (in my opinion) it just shows that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
Explain how that relates to Obama and his campaign. I think you're completely off base with that.
Just my opinion, of course. But I'd be real interested to hear yours. And not some story you read somewhere else.
While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75 year old Texas rancher,whose hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man.
Eventually the topic got around to Obama and his bid to be our President.
The old rancher said, 'Well, ya know, Obama is a 'post turtle'.'
Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a 'post turtle' was.
The old rancher said, 'When you're driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that's a 'post turtle'.'
The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor's face, so he continued to explain. 'You know he didn't get up there by himself, he doesn't belong up there, he doesn't know what to do while he is up there, and you just wonder what kind of a dumb butt put him up there.'
And did he do so in all 57 states or does he a quit before the job is done?
Typical to focus on every single mis-statement. It was pretty obvious that he meant to say 47.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws
Let's list all the fucking idiotic things that Bush has said over the years. Especially the ones that he used to wage an totally illegal WAR on an sovereign nation and completely fuck up our country.
"AN" illegal war. "A" sovereign nation. I got it.
Here's a question. If you could go back 8 years and change something, what would it be? How about 4 years?
Nursey
06-07-2008, 12:09 AM
"AN" illegal war. "A" sovereign nation. I got it.
Yeah, but some people never will.
Yeah, but some people never will.
Well, you have to keep up hope. You can't dismiss the rest of the World just because you don't think they 'get it'. If you think that they don't, the best you can do is to keep trying to educate them.
Giving up is the same as conceding that all you disagree with is right.
Show a little backbone, you sloot.
Nursey
06-07-2008, 12:38 AM
Well, you have to keep up hope. You can't dismiss the rest of the World just because you don't think they 'get it'. If you think that they don't, the best you can do is to keep trying to educate them.
Giving up is the same as conceding that all you disagree with is right.
Show a little backbone, you sloot.
Hey, i don't think the whole world is a lost cause. But i have better things to do with my time than argue with the frontal-lobe damaged likes of Joeslogic.
Hey, i don't think the whole world is a lost cause. But i have better things to do with my time...
Like what?
Joeslogic
06-07-2008, 01:59 AM
Whoever is playing Jeff today.
You seemed to have got the wrong quote
Fernando has Obama very eloquently and in clear, logical, and comprehensible terms described as strategy for any change from the norm what so ever?
Or has he eloquently packaged and idea of more compounded to the factor of ten of the same ole same old routine in Washington?
And did he do so in all 57 states or does he a quit before the job is done?
Could you help me out on this one?
Fernando
06-07-2008, 02:04 AM
Obama has not, but hell, McCain scares me. Rather vote for someone that does nothing than someone that drags us down further.
Joeslogic
06-07-2008, 02:32 AM
Maybe when we see who the running mates are.
Seems like they are each waiting to see what hand the other plays.
Fernando
06-07-2008, 02:46 AM
Hilary doens't want VP, thank god.
Joeslogic
06-07-2008, 07:59 PM
There is a theory that if she cannot get the ticket she does not want Obama to have it either if a Dam gets in she has to wait eight years to have a go at it again.
Whoever is playing Jeff today.
You seemed to have got the wrong quote
Could you help me out on this one?
I didn't get the quote wrong. I was responding to the 'fence post turtle' comment. That made no sense.
And as far as helping you to understand, take a look at this:
http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlueprintForChange.pdf
And then read through some of these:
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/
And then look at this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFknKVjuyNk
and tell me who's talking about the "same ole same old routine in Washington?"
BullGod666
06-07-2008, 11:43 PM
Obama's a first term senator with a golden tongue and pie in the sky ideas. If he gets in we will be seeing our taxes go through the roof to pay for all the programs he wants to put in place. He is the most liberal spender of all the liberals. Oh my aching sphincter if he gets in. Oprah has been instrumental in obama's run. Fucking celebrities should stay outta this shit. Rumor has it he wants to make Islam the official religion of the USA
Unfortunately, McCain is so old that I hear their going to freeze-dry him on inauguration night if he gets elected so that he can make four years.
Obama's a first term senator with a golden tongue and pie in the sky ideas. If he gets in we will be seeing our taxes go through the roof to pay for all the programs he wants to put in place. He is the most liberal spender of all the liberals. Oh my aching sphincter if he gets in. Oprah has been instrumental in obama's run. Fucking celebrities should stay outta this shit. Rumor has it he wants to make Islam the official religion of the USA
Unfortunately, McCain is so old that I hear their going to freeze-dry him on inauguration night if he gets elected so that he can make four years.
You've heard a lot of things. Unfortunately none of them are based on any facts.
Read a little bit so you understand what's really going on. - Obama is not Muslim. I love how people keep dragging that old rumor up.
Do you want your taxes to go up (possibly) or do you want America to keep sinking 177 Million dollars per day - 7.4 Million per hour - $122,820 per MINUTE in to an un-winnable cluster fuck of a fabricated war. For the next 100 years.
BullGod666
06-08-2008, 12:24 AM
You've heard a lot of things. Unfortunately none of them are based on any facts.
Read a little bit so you understand what's really going on. - Obama is not Muslim. I love how people keep dragging that old rumor up.
Do you want your taxes to go up (possibly) or do you want America to keep sinking 177 Million dollars per day - 7.4 Million per hour - $122,820 per MINUTE in to an un-winnable cluster fuck of a fabricated war. For the next 100 years.
No shit none of them are based on fact, christ can't joke around without one of you longtimers getting tweaked. You all know more than anyone and don't read what is there. You didn't mention McCain, did you think that was something I believed as true too?
Yes, I think that when you started off you were completely serious and then threw in that joke about McCain at the end.
I think you might actually have heard that Obama wants to make Islam the official language of the US.
That's preposterous. Everybody knows that the official language of the US es Espanol. Jeeze.
BullGod666
06-08-2008, 02:50 PM
Rumor has it he wants to make Islam the official religion of the USA
Unfortunately, McCain is so old that I hear their going to freeze-dry him on inauguration night if he gets elected so that he can make four years.
Ther's the bullshit Jefe or Jeff. There is no official religion of the USA douchebag, smarten up Mr. perfect.
BullGod666
06-08-2008, 02:52 PM
Yes, I think that when you started off you were completely serious and then threw in that joke about McCain at the end.
I think you might actually have heard that Obama wants to make Islam the official language of the US.
That's preposterous. Everybody knows that the official language of the US es Espanol. Jeeze.
I said religion not language, Islam is a religion not a language fucknuts
I said religion not language, Islam is a religion not a language fucknuts
Oh, my bad. I assumed you meant language. There is no 'official religion' of the US. Separation of church and state and all of that hullabloo.
Ther's the bullshit Jefe or Jeff. There is no official religion of the USA douchebag, smarten up Mr. perfect.
I'm "Mr. Wonderful" thank you, not Mr. Perfect. That's Schmed.
Rastan
06-08-2008, 07:23 PM
This is the best we can come up with out of everyone in the country. Time to overthrow this shit or move to canada imo.
This is the best we can come up with out of everyone in the country. Time to overthrow this shit or move to canada imo.
YEAH. Let's all go to fukkin Canadia man. I'm right behind you. You go first and we'll all follow.
phatboy
06-09-2008, 09:09 AM
I agree that celebrities should stay out of it, of course when I see Bruce Willis singing the 'obama' song I get really teared up. I hope there are enough people that realize that 'celebrities' done live in the real world and the reason they all want a dem in office is to put the pressure of supporting this huge f'ng government on the normal everyday people.
That little fight that started at Ft. Sumter was over a lot more than slavery. Now we get to live in a country with HUGE Government control and have the voice of few speak for so many.
Joeslogic
06-09-2008, 02:06 PM
And as far as helping you to understand, take a look at this:
http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/Obama...tForChange.pdf
And then read through some of these:
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/
President Joe's rebuttal
As president I propose change that you can see and feel.
1: Blue skies. We need more blue skies. As president I will effect this so that you the constituient can enjoy more time out in nature without getting wet.
2: More time off yes people more time off a mandatory one month vacation for all the good people.
3: Less drought. I propose we impliment an underground irrigation system throughout the country. All the fields will be green and lush.
Blah blah blah blah blah
Shit don't stink blah blkah
no more sadness blah blah
no more crime blah blah
President Joe's rebuttal
As president I propose change that you can see and feel.
1: Blue skies. We need more blue skies. As president I will effect this so that you the constituient can enjoy more time out in nature without getting wet.
2: More time off yes people more time off a mandatory one month vacation for all the good people.
3: Less drought. I propose we impliment an underground irrigation system throughout the country. All the fields will be green and lush.
Blah blah blah blah blah
Shit don't stink blah blkah
no more sadness blah blah
no more crime blah blah
You didn't read any of it, did you?
Joeslogic
06-09-2008, 02:29 PM
I read until my eyes glazed over.
Start with his health care.
HOW? How is he gonna make the best healthcare in the world better?
Nauseous
06-09-2008, 02:39 PM
Why would you link his actual website? Of course it's all gonna sound good. That's what it's there for. Geez. I see McCain's commercials and I see trees of green, red roses too, I see 'em bloom, for me and you and I think to myself... what a bunch of bullshit.
That's what these stupid campaign commercials do to me.
Again, I don't trust any of them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRrji66-sGs
phatboy
06-09-2008, 03:05 PM
I can agree with Joe, its very impractical. His site is saying all these changes, and all these improvements and 'shaping minds', sounds like a big pile.
Not realistic.
I did like how civil rights was the second thing on his list 'the most important thing is the right to vote'......hmmmmm.....
Im all for change, and moving forward, but be realistic. Energy Independence and Clean Coal. Clean what? Uh, how do you make clean coal? Wait, how do you make coal? I thought coal was mined, I know thats how they get it in Ky. I think McCain is more realistic in his goals, and plans, a lot of the things Obama is talking about changing we have to foot the bill for.
Joeslogic
06-09-2008, 04:12 PM
Ask yourself what Obama did to become a senator in the first place.
And what has he changed since being elected.
Go back and read the "Pole Turtle" joke.
I will tell you he really did nothing to be put in his position but play a race card.
He has done nothing but vote more of the same since in. (ironic when you run on "change")
That is to say he has the most liberal record in the Senate currently if not possibly historically.
Obama will basically be the new Jimeah Cada. Wimpy and walked all over. Devastating for national security. Devastating for inflation and therefore older retired persons. Devastating for the interest rates. Devastating for the economy.
In a way though I want him in office. OPEC is sweating bullets under pressure from the world to lower prices and is holding out to try to change the election. We have idiots stupid enough to not see the difference. I want the next four to eight years to be a lesson learned. Let's see how well your health insurance works eight years from this day. Lets also see how much it cost for a loan, inflation, mortgages and unemployeement.......
I will taunt and laugh for eight years. So will all the people that hate America that got what they wanted all along.
Drink more of the Kool-Aid Jeff it's goooood.
BullGod666
06-09-2008, 04:32 PM
Why would you link his actual website? Of course it's all gonna sound good. That's what it's there for. Geez. I see McCain's commercials and I see trees of green, red roses too, I see 'em bloom, for me and you and I think to myself... what a bunch of bullshit.
That's what these stupid campaign commercials do to me.
Again, I don't trust any of them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRrji66-sGs
excellent video!
Joeslogic
06-09-2008, 05:17 PM
Haha!
Yeah I got a kick out of the half china-man half hillbilly. Playing the string instrument.
Lomotil
06-10-2008, 02:32 AM
YEAH. Let's all go to fukkin Canadia man. I'm right behind you. You go first and we'll all follow.
Might not be a bad idea, preferably before tomorrow afternoon...
phatboy
06-10-2008, 07:25 AM
Having some hot days out in texas too huh?
My grass looks like straw right now, I overseeded with some 'high sun/low moisture' bermuda, but I dont think its going to help.
Canadas healthcare system is flawed, I hope that obama looks at that before he gives all the illegals medical. Of course I dont think you can get a 'medical card' if you live in Canada illegally, so that might be a plus too. Maybe institute the consumption tax, just let me know so I can by my new car before it takes effect.... :)
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